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Wednesday, December 17, 2008

DECEMBER 17, 2008 PAYMENT IN FULL IS EXPECTED AT THE TIME OF TREATMENT.. YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE .. PAY ME NOW!!!

DECEMBER 17, 2008   PAYMENT IN FULL IS EXPECTED AT THE TIME OF TREATMENT...
YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE ..
 PAY ME NOW!!!


There is something oh so very wrong with the medical clinics in my area. Last year on Feb. 1, 2008 I had the worst case of the flu I have had in years! I mean.. it took me two months to get over that one dosing of it and I went to the clinic twice.. to see the Nurse Practitioner of course. No self respecting doctor worth his salt has the time to see the hordes of people who want his type of doctoring these days. The actual healers who were born to the profession are few and far between these days I am sad to say. I don't know what happened to my area all of a sudden like. One year I had this old family doctor who had been our doctor since I was not even in the world yet.. and then he retired.. and his office was bought by the bigger clinic that was next to one of the big hospitals in the big city a few miles away. All of a sudden.. it was like we had been ripping ole doc off or something. The files he kept on us were hopeless we were told.. it all had to be done in a different way.. and all this paper and information must be given over before we were considered for treatment.. even if we had 105 temperature and could not hold the pen.. IT HAD TO BE DONE FIRST! ...
...sigh..
 Mainly.. they wanted your insurance card or medicare card.. the rest could wait .. maybe..   Doc was a country boy.. he had a medical degree.. he was born and educated as close to home as possible.. and then he came back home to take care of his town. He was a cold, stomach ache, 3 stitches in a finger or a forehead, and head lice doctor you know.. if you had something serious enough that you went to see him twice, and had to go back the third time.. he made you an appointment with a specialist and did not try to treat you any longer. He never admitted anyone to the hospital.. if he felt they needed to go .. he got them a specialist for their particular ailment.. and they got well. Well by golly when that man finally gave it up.. the entire world of medicine seemed to give up its last gasp for our little town.. we started having a series of doctors fresh from med school who had been given money for education in return for basically indenturing themselves to these big clinics for up to 5 years or more. They had to come to the small towns and work off their loans in the clinics.. no matter if they spoke English well enough to make us understand that they just wanted us to to go away basically!...
..sigh..
 Every time I went to the doctor or took someone .. there was a new doctor and a new receptionist and nurse to greet and meet each time for several years.. Then the big clinic doctors got tired of the same things their long time patients got tired of quick.. the big clinics wanted them to treat the people for everything from mental illness to preventive checkups.... and they were in no way in any kind of control of how much to charge the people who had been their patients for basically all their lives. And what was so bad.. is that they would come down to the clinics and chew the doctors out right in front of the patients in a full waiting room! Believe it.. I have seen it with my own eyes.. this one lady had several patients who needed their blood sugar levels checked at least twice a week.. but the old darlin's didn't have the money for the supplies.. so she would have them walk to the clinic a couple times a week and she would check their sugar for them for a couple of dollars.. OH NO,  They fired that lady.. and I and many other people had to bear witness to them doing it.. it was shameful!...
..sigh...
That act broke the clinic up badly. Most of their really good long term doctors left our area.. they went all over the USA.. the only one left to me is my gyn doctor.. in private practice.. but he still must deal with the big clinic to get testing and hospital space and operating rooms.. He really had to swallow a big mouthful of HMO pootea to remain with his patients whom he really cared about
....sigh...
Then after the doctors left and they decided the indentured servant doctors were not what could operate in our small communities.. we then received the Nurse Practitioners.. who for all intents and purposes are really pretty tuned in and educated to taking care of sore throats, scraped knees, head lice, and the odd stitch.. but that is not what these clinics want from them. They are in contact with a doctor at the main clinic for each patient they see. It is entered into the computer.. and before the patient leaves the office.. they concur with the NP on their treatment. They can't write a prescription themselves.. but the consulting doctor when he concurs has given the go ahead to call it into a pharmacy using his license number. This would work great if the clinics would not press them to treat EVERYTHING
...sigh...
 If you go in with pink eye.. before you leave they have set you up for a pap smear, a mammogram, and a cholesterol screening.. and usually you get something for the pink eye in there somewhere.. but sad to say.. sometimes they forget in the push to get all your WELL CARE ... which in my opinion.. is something we could all do without.. Go to the doctor when your sick.. Go to the dentist when your tooth hurts..I do my own breast self exams.. I do not need to have my breast mashed and imaged, so that they can scare the bejezzits out of me with a potential problem that turns out to be a shadow on their film.. No thank you! No cholesterol screenings.. no jacking with my blood pressure with all these medicines to get it just right.. for my statistical size.. I am not a statistic.. I am me.. and waiting in a waiting room for 3 hours will have a tendency to make any ones blood pressure shoot up a bit..
 sigh..
 I don't believe in root canals.. pull it out if it offends you.. hell with all that drilling and cleaning and well basically bull frocky.. when your gona be in dentures when you get old.. everyone is.. no matter if you had a root canal that took 3 appointments to get done and 1500 dollars worth of the dentists education and tools.. not to mention all those 15 women they have working for them salaries to pay... . whom most of the time when I sit and wait to go in.. mostly talk to their kids on the phone doing their homework over the phone
...sigh....
I do not understand the need to know how much money I make a year and where I work if I pay in cash either.. the questionnaires are just too much like making a purchase at Radio Shack.. only place I know of that won't make the sale without a phone number from you..
 sigh..
What brings this subject to rear its ugly pimply head at this particular time in my life.. is when I had the flu last year .. on Feb. 1, 2008.. I went to the clinic.. every wall in that place had a huge sign.. with the words..
YOU ARE EXPECTED TO MAKE PAYMENT IN FULL FOR ANY TREATMENT YOU RECEIVE BEFORE YOU LEAVE TODAY.. YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR BILL.. NOT YOUR INSURANCE COMPANY.. FILING YOUR INSURANCE or  MEDICARE CLAIM FOR YOU IS A COURTESY TO YOU FROM US.
(bite me)
This of course makes most people feel even worse than they already do.. the fear starts to settle in on you in the waiting room.. What does it cost to get your boob smashed and your temperature taken these days? And then how much is the pill peddler over across the street gona hit me for.. ( I have never gotten out of a pharmacy for less than a hundred dollars spent in years)  Then you have the walk in clinics which make you pay them before you even see the doctor.. then after you go back and get told you need your boobs smashed.. your blood drained and for some reason they are manic about my urine.. (strange profession) they give you a sheet of paper with all these numbers on it with little boxes next to them they have checked off for the Q-tips and tongue depressor they used on you.. and you pay that with another check before you can leave.. I have always wanted to bolt out the door screaming..
"STAY LOW TO THE GROUND KID.. DOC AND WYATT ARE MEETING US OUT BACK WITH THE HORSES! YOU STILL GOT YOUR CHECK LIST? WE WILL NEED IT LATER TO USE FOR CHARMIN .. IT IS BIG ENOUGH FOR ALL FOUR OF US .. AND SOME LEFT OVER!"
... but I am a wuss.. and besides that I can't afford an attorney either..just to see what would happen.. and they usually keep your drivers license till they get that final check from you.. the cowards.. smart cowards.. but cowards nevertheless...
 sigh..
Anyway.. the NP decided I was a good candidate for this sugar pill they call Tamiflu.. which is supposed to be a miracle flu killer if they give it to you within the first 48 hours.. I had plainly told the lady I had been sick for a week.. I had 103 temperature.. but that is what I got.. 100 dollars worth of nothing that was not going to work.. I drove home.. three days later I was back.. and I was not feeling as easy calm on the verge of death as earlier.. I wanted an antibiotic and I wanted something for the symptoms or I was just going to stay with them till I got well.
 I told her that..
she looked at me kind of like..
 "Gee. she must of figured out I am not a demigod"
.. and called in a prescription for the medicine I requested. Chephalexon.. the wonder drug of the 21st century! Both times I was given a statement.. which I paid by check in full before I left.. I thought it a little bit cheap.. at Fifty six dollars and eighty cents.. but I felt to bad to ask. Now mind you this was in Feb. of this year.. In June I got a statement for fourteen dollars and twenty cents.. to pay the office calls in full. sigh... I threw it in the trash. I threw the one in July in the trash.. and August.. and then September. Finally in October I broke down and pulled up a new file in Word and wrote them a polite note asking them to remove the mistaken balance from my account. I had paid in full .. I sent this letter to them in October.. and I sent a copy of that same letter in November... and here it is December.. and I decided to write a new letter to them.. being more specific and plain spoken to them about THEIR MISTAKE.. because this statement had tacked to the bottom of it.. another note which I love how they put things to you ..
 THIS IS AN ATTEMPT TO COLLECT AND SETTLE A DEBT OWED BY YOU.  ALL CORRESPONDENCE WILL BE USED ALSO IF IT CAN HELP US TO COME TO A SATISFACTORY END TO THIS DEBT.
sigh...
So I probably gave them some ammunition to use to try to collect this debt they say I owe.. which I say they can kiss my ass because they had a rate hike in June and want me to pay that rate instead of the one in Feb. They can kiss both cheeks of my ass.. and I hope they get chapped lips and no one will sell them any vaseline.. which there will be none left on the shelf if everyone pays them this money ... they will all be receiving a large jar of it with the next attempt to collect a debt notice they get..
sigh..
I told them that they should adhere to their own guidelines that are plastered all over the clinics walls if they want us to. And I believed I was right in the matter and if they had the balls to turn this twenty eight dollars and forty cents over to a collection agency and have it on my credit report.. that my attorney would be contacting them and he would make sure .. I got paid in full before they left the courthouse.. I also added that this was an attempt to correct a mistake on the clinics billing policies and my account.. that any and all information I had and in the future they might provide me.. would be used to that end..
sigh...

 I ain't letting em smash my boobs either.. nope..



lockerridge 

29 comments:

  1. It is all about the mighty dollar anymore these days, isn't it....

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  2. I don't go to doctors anymore. As far as I am concerned they are all quacks! The last time I went to a doctor it was a woman, and the dumb bitch didn't even know what flatulence was. That told me right there she didn't know enough to charge 75 dollars for her ignorant services.

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  3. OJ this is the worst I have ever seen people treated in my entire life! I know I have never been to a war riddled country with people treated like so much of the dirt they walk on.. but this is America! There are so many doctors that are only out for the money.. all of those indentured doctors could not even speak English well enough to get a persons symptoms.. they relied on their nurses.. the nurses were doing all the doctoring anyway.. suppose the HMO figured that out right after I did.. There is no way those guys made it in an American medical school and learned anything.. anything at all.. if you can't read or speak the language.. how can you get a diploma from that countries schools?
    again.. I can only sigh.. and swear a blood oath that my boobs will never be defiled by their squasher..

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  4. Yeah..but I bet she was running at least 15 people an hour out of that office.. that is the clinics quota.. yeah.. they have a damn quota!

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  5. This was at a doctor's office, not a clinic.

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  6. It's a sad state of affairs when you can't get the care you need.

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  7. I don't know whats going on Locke but I feel like I've landed in the dark ages as far as medical care goes out here. I finally got insurance thru golden rule ... started paying $300 a month which of course had to be automatically deducted from my acct. After a couple of months I get an ear ache ... call the insurance company. Nope, no ear, nose, or throat stuff for 3 mos. Finally my "probation" period is up & I call to get myself a primary dr. ... clinic said I had to make an appt. ... i said i didn't NEED an appt. I wasn't SICK ... I just wanted to pick out a dr. ... they said nope, gotta make an appt.
    FINE! check my blood pressure.
    It was high (wonder why?) ... they needed some blood.
    I gave 'em the blood and my previous lab reports saying my sugar was running high and I needed to watch my diet.
    After 3 appts. Doc gets me all squared away and I think we're done. WRONG!
    Insurance company sends me a letter saying they think some of these conditions might have been pre-existing. They're not covering anything until they get my medical records.
    Okay ... I'm not trying to hide anything. I gave 'em my last lab reports. I'd been going to the same medical center for 25 yrs. Have at it.
    Gist of it is they get the medical records and insist I lied on my application.
    For crying out loud I didn't even fill it out. THEY DID, over the phone.
    And OMG look at that ... you had an irregular period once in 2001. We can't cover YOU. Ah Duh? Is it that unusual at the start of menopause? Needless to say they refused to pay a dime. I was stuck with all the medical bills but they suggested I keep up on my premiums. I beg to differ, I explain I can't AFFORD to pay them $300 a month for the pleasure of paying my own medical bills. I tell them since they won't cover me I think I'm entitled to my 6 mos. of premiums back. OH NO, we can't do that.
    I proved her wrong. Took me a couple of months but they finally agreed to refund me.
    Now? ... it cost me $140 for a dr. visit ... $300 additional for the lab work. I figure it costs me about $100 every time they stick me with a needle. Doc knows I don't have insurance & to keep the testing to a minimum but the fact remains it costs me $500 a dr. visit so I keep them few & far between.
    It makes me mad when I see commercials for new miracle drugs on tv ... yeah right IF you can afford them. I know of people around here that go to the local FEED STORE to pick up their meds. Yeah, they're using antibiotics made for LIVESTOCK because they can't afford to go see a doctor. And this is progress?

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  8. Welcome Sharon! Good to see your comment on my blog.. I love fresh input! Everyone else knows me too well.. lol..
    What I hate is that there are no family doctors any longer.. it is all this walkin stuff.. and they are constantly changing the people who are seeing you.
    Right now.. my son just called me from the doctors office where he is living.. he needs a hundred dollars.. he has a fifteen dollar copay with his insurance.. but he also had a one hundred dollar deductible.. he didn't have any idea he had the deductible.. because this is the firest doctors office we have found that will file his insurance for him.. He works at Olive Garden and they have funky providers..
    What does a momma do.. she gets on the phone and recites her debit card number and when he gets to the pharmacy.. the same thing will happen.. because he has the same one hundred dollar deductible there also.. sigh.. sigh.. sigh.. and he is really pretty sick guy.. they are not happy with the amount of oxygen in his system.. and so xrays.. and cultures.. and the worst part.. I am here and he is there.. and that just kills me!

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  9. I am with you Peg. All the new miracle wonder drugs are stuff like Viagra.. and what is up with all this junk they are pumping at the public about if you are presently taking an antidepressant and still feel kind of bad.. they can add another pill that will pump you up.. What we need is less stress over these damn prevention scans for cholesterol.. which believe it or not.. if you get a job in one of the factories around here.. you have to submit to DNA testing so they can put you in your slot for potential future medical risks for diseases.. How bout them apples?
    My boyfriend had kidney stones.. major pain.. took him to the local ER.. He was there for 45 minutes.. he has no medical insurance.. they were told he had none.. they gave him two hypos of morphine and another hypo of some kind of stone dissolving stuff.. and did an xray.. told him they were pretty sure he had kidney stones.. but wanted a Cat Scan to be sure.. they did two of those.. The bill was 8000 dollars.
    They offered us a deal if we would pay half of it within two weeks in full they would take it as payment in full.. It will never be paid period.. I refuse to pay it.. it is a black mark on his credit.. but hells bells.. I am not paying the 3000 dollars a piece they charged for them .. when they already knew what was wrong with him! They did those as an afterthought.. knowing he had no insurance.. sorry now.. simply sorry of them.. and to think.. that two shots of morphine.. an IV.. and another shot of dissolver cost us 2000 dollars.. they didn't even help him out the door.. in a wheelchair.. he had to manage on his own.. with all that painkiller.. it is simply out of bounds in my opinion.. they kill more folks and make them sicker than they help with all these pills they push on us.. not for me any longer.. if blood is not squirting or I am delirious with fever.. just give me a blanket and a bottle of coca cola and just leave me alone.. if I am gona die.. I would rather do it that way as full of needles and bruises and my kid have to pay them all his inheritance to get out from under their charges.. I am wound up .. but there is no place to let fly with my windup .. ya know?

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  10. Thanks for the welcome!
    I am currently dealing with the insurance company for a procedure I need for my Achilles. I went to an Ortho and he had me do Physical Therapy. My co pay was 40.00 while the insurance only paid just under $10.00 a visit to the provider. After two months of twice a week PT, the Dr. tells me that they need to perform surgery. He wants to cut up my tendon and I would have to take blood thinners, antibiotics and be put under general anesthesia. Um. No. So I found a procedure that has a higher efficacy rate than surgery does called Extra Corporeal Shock Wave Therapy, but it's considered to be experimental by the FDA, although the same procedure is covered by insurance if you have Plantar Fascitis. I found a Dr. in New Jersey (I'm in MD) that does this procedure, but it's $2500.00, which is probably FAR LESS than the actual surgery would cost the insurance company. The doctors office says they insurance isn't going to pay, the insurance says they cover that for my condition at 100% if I stay in network. I went searching again for someone who will do ESWT in Maryland and found a Dr. who says he doesn't do it that often, but can, but first I have to come in and get checked out by him to see if the other 2 doctors were right about my diagnosis. I understand this, but oi vey, I'm still hobbling around and now I have no idea when this will all be resolved.

    I understand about the crazy testing too. I went in to get my thyroid meds adjusted and came out with a slip for a chest xray and all kinds of blood work they want. Wtf?

    As for kids in far off places, I have one in SC and there have been MANY times mommy has gotten out that ole debit card for her. I feel for you!!

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  11. lol well Walmart pharmacy will not take my debit card over the phone.. which I find hard to believe.. but anyway.. I am off here and on my way to college town Arkansas.. about a 45 minute drive from my house to Fayetteville where the UofA is at.. gona collect my kid and get a hug.. and put my hand on his forehead.. and buy him some campbells chicken noodle soup.. and maybe a steak and salad too! lol.. he is not mommas baby.. nope I am his baby.. lol..

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  12. Loved reading this blog, thanks and I agree with all you have said. Our hospital and clinic will treat you because it is a Ministry hospital, but if you don't pay up, they have no problem sending it to collection. The fees charged for services are ridiculous!

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  13. I knew the insurance companies in the USA were a nightmare to negotiate with whenever people wanted to claim on medical bills ... but reading your blog and the comments here has made me thank God for the National Health Service here in the UK. Because I have a chronic illness I have to have bloods done every two months ... plus I take a whole range of medication. Here you get medication free if you are over 60 or have a chronic condition which requires pills for life. Also cat scans and x-rays and ECGs are all free, as are medical procedures and surgical operations. I say free ... but we pay a National Insurance stamp which is equivalent to 10% of your salary. This covers all hospital and local doctor fees and goes towards your state pension. It also ensures you get benefits when you are unable to work because of disability. We moan about how high this stamp is (usually when we are young and paying through the nose), but when you consider what we get for it later when our health declines ... it's pretty cheap.

    I think this is what Obama wants to introduce in America.

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  14. You think your clinics are bad," I lost my tail and it took me 2 days to see a doctor,and they still couldn't help me" =(

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  15. SMASH? SMASH WHAT?
    It stinks don't i know it.. ALL OF IT.

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  16. Oh not u writing.. Doctors and clinics and cost, and wait.. and cost.

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  17. Welcome to my blog zzzoya! Your welcome to drop in anytime you wish and thankyou for leaving a comment.. Our section of the world that the healers among us occupy has been overrun with big business. The drug companies are one of the reasons it has gone down to the level of untrained doctors being put into our clinics by these huge HMO type conglomerates.. and they focus on one thing.. turning a profit.. they could care less about our real health and well being.. as a matter of fact.. if they can invent a disease..and then a pill to fix it.. no matter what its symptoms.. immediately.. about half of the population would declare itself doomed and in need of a cure.. which they then provide it with a benevolent smile.. make us believe .. they are just fighting for a longer and better quality of life..

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  18. I am glad for your country and yourself that it is working well for you over there.. but if it is something the political leaders of this country put together for the good of the little guy.. just you bet somebody made a dollar on the deal.. I just do not have the trust necessary any longer for anyone whom hails from the government.. they do not deserve it.. ..I am still pretty sure that grizzly bears don't smile.. and all I see when I see the congress or senate on CNN.. is a whole room full of fangs.. ready and willing to sacrifice our great country and its freedoms for their own gain.. they are not even as trustworthy as used car salesmen any more to me. If they patterned the health care from your country's pattern.. they would somehow.. not sew a corner tight enough .. or use illegal thread .. they would mess it up.. and we would suffer for it .. not them..

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  19. Oh poor Friend Fred.. I will help you look for your tail.. later.. much later .. okay?

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  20. It isn't going to be my boobs.. I tell ya that much! lol.. It not only stinks.. it is just one more example of dumb shit.. and I hates that more and more all the time!

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  21. Oh.. the waiting.. and the freaking waiting.. and just dealing with the snotty people who fill out medicare forms.. and the waiting.. and the.. catching the flu from sitting in a room full of sick people.. who are also.. waiting.. sigh. sigh..sigh..

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  22. Sounds like the making of a movie. I see DUMB SHIT! I see DUMB PEOPLE! I see DUMB SHIT!..
    I know what you mean.. I do I do!

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  23. Well my hubby has good medical coverage....its through his work...and guess what he works in a hospital in respority....We pay $10 for office visit, and $25 for hospital and he also gets eye care too.
    Its taken out of his pay. My daughter has real good coverage and she gets her insurance free where she works. I heard HMO"s aren't very good and cost you an arm and a leg for it too. So it all depends on what kind of insurance you have and what it covers...I never have a problem when I need to go to the doctor. Had 2 serceries and insurance cover all of it...So check out other insurance companies and whats cover....Yours sounds like a rip off to me......
    You may go to my pg and leave your comment so I can see it ok...Its littlefoxes or just click on the snowman next to my name ok....

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  24. You have misunderstood .. I have no medical insurance.. the premiums for a person who does not have a job which provides a discounted rate for employees and is over the age of 49 and smokes is over 400 dollars a month for the kind of coverage you are talking about. I can pay a payment to the hospital cheaper than that.. so I am not going to give the insurance companies my money and when I need the insurance they will not pay for my charges.. and all insurance that is not through a large company employee benefits is crap.. no matter how much they charge and how much they guarantee it will cover you .. they always have a loophole.. which is the old.. preexisting condition loophole.. if you have ever had to go to the doctor more than once with the same type illness.. then it is considered a preexisting condition..

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  25. I am sorry but I don't leave replies from comments on my blog on others pages.. I try very hard to keep what is in my blog and what is said in my comments for that blog remaining there.. it is just not a good idea to do that I think.. it can lead to a lot of people misunderstanding a lot of words or they just glance at a comment on the home page and think you are talking about them or something of that sort.. happened to me before.. so I won't be doing that.

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  26. It is too weird for me to understand the insurance companies method of arriving at what they will pay for and what they won't.
    When we had Blue Cross and Blue Shield.. if I went to the doctor to get the tests and things to get my birth control pills script renewed.. and the doctor wrote it down as a birth control or family planning visit.. they would not pay for it.. but they paid 95 percent of a pregnancy cost.. now figure that one out as to how they figured they were saving money that way?

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  27. You know Locke I can remember my great grandparent's doctor still making a house calls in the 70's. He was as old as they were but he'd obviously been their doctor for a long time, knew them well and cared. It's hard to believe how screwy it's all gotten with the insurance companys & drug companies & assembly line medicine. No one even tries to fix a problem out here, they just hand you a pill & if that doesn't work they hand you a 2nd one.

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  28. I agree with that for sure Peggy.. there are some things that can't be dealt with by taking a pill.. and some things that should not be interfered with by taking a pill.. like taking antidepressants for grief.. it is not going to help you.. you can take the pills and it will keep you from facing what you have to face.. and some people think they can just take the pills from now on and it will work for them.. wrong.. that stuff is altering your brain.. and after a while.. it will alter it to a bad angle and I know it for a fact!
    Menopause.. it is a normal progression of a womans life.. you should not try to keep it from happening.. yeah. your miserable.. and it is not one of those seven to ten days getting over thing either.. it is as long as five years for some women.. but if you stop it by taking estrogen.. all that is gona do for you is when you stop taking the estrogen supplements.. because they are causing cysts to form or you get a cancer condition that has been caused by or fed by the hormone.. that not only will you go into menopause full blown.. but your gona have these other medical problems caused by the supplements..
    The less medicine we take the better off we are. I sit here and I am almost 51 years old.. I do not put anything into my body except excedrin extra strength when I have a headache.. I use herbs when I can instead of pharmaceuticals because they are so much easier on my body .. the pills are concentrated forms of the same active ingredients in the herbs.. but they are so strong.. they will burn something up in the process of building something else up..

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  29. I went the natural route with menopause ... well all except for that one trip to the doctor that gave the insurance company an excuse to squawk. Doctor gave me some pills, told me if I didn't straighten out in a couple of weeks to take them. He said I'd have a mini period when I stopped the pills ... nothing to worry about. We're in the mountains and I start having uterine contractions ... hurt worse then hard labor. Took us over 3 hrs. to get home and I was in PAIN. I stumpled in the house, grabbed a pain pill & called the advice nurse. She said, "Honey, didn't the doctor warn you that when you stop taking these it can cause major contractions?" GRRRR I had visions of what I'd like to do to that doctor. Then she went on to tell me that I wasn't going to bleed to death, women were vertible blood making machines and to take ibuprofen ... she said it's an anti inflamatory & shrinks the gland that's causing the problem. She was right. Problem solved.

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